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Antea

Author: MiGa, Comments: 13
Created: 07.09.2008, Viewed: 6272x

Hi! I was able to fly the Antea the last week and really like it. I think i will switch from Atis to Antea very soon. The only surprising thing was the braking distance of Antea. I thought gliders of the higher class have a shorter distance from no break to stall. But i think the antea has more then the Atis has. Am i wrong or why is it that way? I also tried to brake till the point of stall what is much more difficult with antea then atis, because the brake pressure is very high before the stall. Cheers Michael

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nice
Tester23x - 01.11.2008, 19:57

nice :-)

Antea - performance & safety
klaus1 - 02.11.2008, 09:05

When I tried the Antea first time I wasn't happy. After some hours I loved the glider. The reason: the Antea show you a very high performance - you see it in the speed and the gliding angle. But - and I don't know how Alexandre Paux raealized this habit in the Antea - the Antea is comparing to his performance a very easy-flying glider, very simple and easy. You always aspect a reaction from the glider like from a performance glider - but nothing happens! The only thing is flying in thermal - than the has to be handle like a performance glider, you have to turn and thermaling fast and with less brake. I you are themaling like this you will have always a place on the very top in the Sky and you feel your Antea as an unbeatably glider!

Antea - Performance & safety
Kim Brede Lie - 03.11.2008, 22:14

Hello Klaus1 , I am considering Antea as my next wing, but also have Maverick; Sigma7 and Factor on my list.... How do you think Antea performs compared to these 2008 gliders? Have you flown with any of them and compared? Best regards Kim Brede Lie

Comparison
klaus1 - 16.11.2008, 10:41

Hi Kim, I believe also the gliders you named are good gliders. Espacially with Factor I flew once together, seem to be a very good glider. But every designer has different ideas in head when making a glider. Nova -gliders seem to be always on the top of the certification, mean performance is for them very important. Sky always build gliders which are "useable" for the pilot, a "intermediate " glider like Antea is not a hidden high performance glider. I like very much the nice handling, the good speed and the very stability of Antea. For me, after flying about 20 years with paaragliders, the Antea is a very simple but perfect glider!

Simple?
MaN - 17.11.2008, 19:32

Hello Klaus, I do not know what you mean by simple glider? I was just wondering how you would like to make it more complicated? I was checking the structure of NOVA gliders and I do not see why they are more complicated or complex....

simple glider
klaus1 - 29.11.2008, 16:58

hi, Martin, my opinion is, that the Antea is a very "easy to fly" glider, you don't need special tricks for starting, for turning, for thermaling. The simple mean, that the glider is very easy to fly for avarage experienced pilot. You don't have to be an expert to fly and enjoy Antea. The simple has nothing to do with the construction....Maybe the glider is that easy to fly because the aspect ration is not that high like other glider is this category. I flew many hours with Antea and felt always safe and relaxed, I never had a situation which was too difficult for me. Just a simple glider ;-) with very good handling, speed and stability!

Oh yes ...
MaN - 30.11.2008, 13:56

.. that is true. We always try to do our best to design a glider with low aspect ration and great performance. I just did not understand the word simply, I just see that simple was meant in the meaning of "easy" :-) Easy and cool then!

Brake range
MaN - 04.11.2008, 16:18

You know, we think that the brake range is the vital safety manouvre. There are hundreds of injuries because people just stall the glider before the landing and therefore we usually keep trimming the glider to the maximum extent possible. Even though this is a high performance glider which is meant mostly for experienced pilots, we think that even exprienced pilots need from time to time to use the brakes range - the higher, the better.

thermic conditions how much brake?
john smith - 14.09.2009, 23:33

I have the XL antea which is rated as a C on brake length i.e. 55cm-65cm The manual states approx. 15% brake for min. sink around 10cm. Flying today I had two huge collapses in thermic conditions. I was flying with some brake pressure but perhaps I should have been flying with some more. How much brake is recommended?

Collapses
MaN - 16.09.2009, 08:10

Hi John, it is difficult to say. I think it is better to develop a skill of immediate reaction and try to control the collapses and not to avoid them by flying with more brake input. Collapses are regular part of our sport, so I would say it is pretty normal to experience some collapses but the crucial point is to be able to control them. Sorry, it is difficult to explain that in the forum.

Collapses
john smith - 18.09.2009, 19:17

Hi MaN, Thanks for your reply that make sense. I've been flying six years now and just trying to get use to the feel of the Antea. When I was flying in thermic conditions I was trying to ensure that the wing was staying pressurised. I know the answer really which is getting use to the feel of the wing adapting break pressure to pressure of the wing. I just got it a bit wrong that day however, conditions were far from ideal. Yes I agree about not avoiding them but I think in my case on that day I didn't help matters. I was doing a turn to the right and with a strong tail wind I failed to keep the wing presurrised enough on the left wing. I thought that the wind was pressurised but sometimes even flying with no break the wing feels pressurised if you know what I mean. I dealt with the collapse fine as the wing recovered incredible quick.

Collapses 2
MaN - 02.10.2009, 16:37

Yes, I think I know what you mean. I think tat this can happen depending on the conditions you fly.

Antea II !!??
Ted Smith - 13.12.2009, 18:03

Hey no rush, it is a great glider and all, but now that the Atis 3 is out, when can we expect the Antea II?!

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